
(I apologise for using this blog to vent about “real life” conversations that frustrate me and to say what I
wish I’d said in those conversations. But that has to be one of the most common uses of the internet, right? I also apologise for the
slightly repetitive nature of this post. It seems that I periodically need to get these things off my chest.)
(Also – I know I know I know I know I know: I need to
take my own advice.)
You mainly read for “escapism”, yes?I can’t answer this question without first explaining that the traditional definition of “escapism” is one I have a bit of a problem with. If you take it to mean “go to happy rainbow unicorn land where you won’t have to think about your problems, or anyone else’s, or sad things, or anything but FLUFFY KITTENS for the duration of the book,” then no. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with happy things, with things that make us forget our problems,
or with fluffy kittens, but personally I have to say I rarely if ever pick up a book with that specific intent.
If, however, by escapism you mean “to exit the confines of your own identity (and/or of your own time, place, culture, and life) and temporarily enter someone else’s”, then yes, yes, absolutely yes. This is, incidentally, something as easily achieved by a fantasy as by a classic or a piece of realistic fiction. I could go on about this point at great length, but
my friend Jason has done so recently, and far better than I ever could. So I’ll point you towards his post (and the very interesting and thoughtful comments) instead.
But don’t you prefer books that allow you to “turn your brain off”?Now here’s an expression that makes me cringe almost as badly as, say, “the graphic novel genre” - and if you know me well, you’ll know that’s saying a lot. First of all, I actually question the existence of completely “fluffy” (a term I loathe) or “mindless” books, as I believe reading to be too complex a mental process to ever
not be enriching in some way or another. More than on the book itself, I think this depends on what the reader is willing to take away from the reading experience. This isn’t to say that some books, regardless of their genre, aren’t more complex or generally felt to be more meaningful and enriching than others – but again, this will largely depend on the reader rather than solely on the book. However, my fondness for fantasy (and for comics, children’s books or YA) has absolutely nothing to do with a preference for books that
aren’t meaningful, that won’t challenge me, that won’t make me think. And I regret to say that this is an assumption I’ve come to really resent.
But you’re a bit on the dim side, aren’t you? It just takes less to challenge you or make you think.
You wouldn’t believe how often people actually say this – or imply it in ways they probably think are subtle, but even dim little me can see through. You’d think common politeness at the very least would stop them, but no. Anyway, quite possibly I am, yes. But I wish people wouldn’t make instant assumptions about my intelligence based on what I choose to read. I’m not exactly confident, and I suspect I could very easily fall into this trap and believe this of myself. Fortunately for me, some of the smartest people I have ever met are fans of fantasy, science fiction, comics, YA, or all of the above. Therefore, all I can do is roll my eyes.
(Then again, you could argue that unintelligent people such as me aren’t qualified to recognise intelligence in others, and that therefore all those fantasyYAcomics lovers I think highly of are just pseudo-intellectuals. You win, and I walk away in shame.)
Why do you hate the classics?
Another common misconception about fantasy fans is that we only ever read fantasy. I love many classics, and though I’m all for expanding the canon to include more non-realistic fiction (among many other things), I’m definitely not for chunking the books currently thought of as classics into a bonfire. I wish we’d stop trying so hard to determine what’s worthier, better, smarter, or more meaningful, as if these were qualities that can only be attributed to a very specific category of books.
Why do you hate literary fiction?
Again, I absolutely don’t, and many of my favourite books would be described as such. I do dislike the term, as it’s often used to imply that “literariness” is the exclusive propriety of the kind of books it’s usually applied to – but nevermind that for now.
I don’t hate classics, or literary fiction, or non-fiction – and I realise I don’t need to tell this to those of you who have been reading me for more than, say, one day. But you wouldn’t believe how often people assume that I do. In reality, fantasy is only about 30% of what I read, but it’s like saying I’ve enjoyed even one fantasy novel forever brands me as a “fantasy nerd”. Not that I particularly mind, as I’m proud to call myself one. But I do mind all the baggage that seems to come with the term.
You’re slipping into “reverse snobbery”!
First of all, what is “reverse” snobbery? I think snobbery is snobbery is snobbery, period. Secondly, no, I’m not. I don’t see how refusing to accept the inherent superiority of realistic fiction is the same thing as saying it’s inherently inferior. However, this is something I’ve seen fantasy fans do, so I can see where the assumption comes from. Yes, there are readers of fantasy (and readers of other genres, probably) who will accuse so-called Serious Literature and its readers of being tedious, pretentious, pompous and snobbish. I think this is a sign of how polarised these discussions have become, and I regret that it happens. But it’s not something that all, or even most, fantasy lovers do, because – surprise! – we’re actually as diverse in our tastes, personalities and approaches to literature as readers of realistic fiction.
Why do you insist on calling [insert book thought of as literary here] “fantasy”? Obviously it’s too good to be “fantasy”!
Why do you insist on putting quotation marks around the term fantasy? It’s not like it’ll bite unless it’s muzzled, is it? This is something that really aggravates me: very often, when people who have preconceived notions about a genre read a book that counters those notions, instead of thinking, “Oh, perhaps I was wrong after all” they’ll try very hard to distance said book from the genre they take such pleasure in maligning, as if by doing so they’ll save it—and themselves— from being soiled. Cue in, “Oh, His Dark Materials is excellent! But of course, it’s barely even fantasy”, or “Ursula Le Guin is of course a feminist writer. Isn’t it revolting how she keeps being labelled a ‘fantasy and sci-fi writer’?”. True quotes, my friends. It’s No true Scotsman at its best.
Also, by “people” I don’t just mean common readers, but also critics, marketing departments, and even authors themselves. How many fantasy books are repackaged with Serious and Respectable-Looking covers and put on the general fiction shelf? How many reviews beginning with, “I don’t normally like fantasy, but…” have you read? It’s like the critic is desperate to first and foremost save her or his reputation, and reassure their readers that their enjoyment of this one fantasy book does not in fact mean that their brain has turned to mush. (I realise that the same phrase can be used to denote surprise that a genre you though you didn’t like is actually not so bad, and in such cases I have absolutely nothing against it.)
I’ve often seen people say that fantastic elements alone are not enough to make something “fantasy” (yes, with quotation marks), and what I’d like to know is what, then, is enough – this is an honest question for anyone who happens to disagree. Is it bookshop or library placement? Cover design? The existence of that mythical beast, the nerdy fan? Is it the author’s prestige? Is it “literariness” or the lack thereof? And, more importantly, who gets to decide? Why do certain definitions (usually the least inclusive ones, the ones that perpetuate the ghettoisation of fantasy) get to be dominant? I’m not saying I have all the answers here, but I think these are questions well worth considering.
Do you want me to lend you this mediocre fantasy novel that my daughter read recently? It has a dragon on the cover, so you’re sure to love it!
Thank you, but no thank you. Yet another one of those common misconceptions about readers of fantasy (and possibly of science fiction, mystery or romance) is that we instantly love any fantasy book simply because it’s fantasy. What we love about the books we read is actually not that different from what readers of realistic fiction (which – can this get any more confusing? – we also are!) love about their books, nor is it any less diverse. So no, I don’t particularly want to read a book you think of as mediocre merely because it has a dragon on the cover.
Good writing doesn’t matter to you, does it?
Actually, it does. And I hate the assumption that when you read fantasy, you’re supposed to lower your standards when it comes to the writing. I don’t quite know where this idea comes from, as some of my favourite writers prose-wise (Margo Lanagan, Kij Johnson, Catherynne M. Valente, Ray Bradbury, John Crowley, Neil Gaiman, Angela Carter) write or wrote fantasy. I’m not trying to say that every fantasy book out there is written in beautiful prose, but would anyone ever expect that of realistic fiction? We go back to the fact that genres are perceived as a lot more samey than they actually are.
I wish I had numbers that could back up an argument about the proportion of books with quality writing in genre fiction and in mainstream fiction, but a study like that would be very difficult to conduct because it would require an objective definition of “quality prose”. I know a lot of people are ready to argue that this can be objectively defined, but in fact these arguments exist even about classics and literary fiction. One reader’s lyrical writing is another’s purple prose.
So yes, I do care about good writing (or my personal definition of it, which you’re free to dismiss as not as sophisticated as your own), and I don’t think it’s fair to assume that fantasy readers generally don’t.
But don’t you fantasy fans mostly read for plot?
Nope. I do enjoy a good story, but I mostly read for characterisation. This is, of course, a personal preference. And as fantasy readers aren’t all, to steal a phrase from Terry Pratchett, a fourteen-year-old boy named Kevin, we all value different aspects of our reading and read for very different reasons.
Characterisation?! But doesn’t everyone know that characters in fantasy novels are nothing but stereotypes?
*sigh*
You’re probably just not as “discerning” as I am.
I wish someone would be so kind as to explain the meaning of this term to me as if I were three years old. Whenever I come across it, it seems to be used dismissively, which is something that really saddens me. I’ve been accused of having no standards, no taste and no discernment; but ironically I hear this as often about liking fantasy writers as I do about liking canonical ones (such as, say, D.H. Lawrence), which causes me to have a little bit of trouble taking it seriously at all.
It’s only human to define “good taste” in a way that includes our own taste, but the least we can do is try to make an effort not to deride everything that falls on the “wrong” side of our own personal line.
Don’t you get tired of reading about things that aren’t real?
Of all the misconception about fantasy, this is probably the one that baffles me the most. Surely it should go without saying that a book with fantasy elements won’t really be about said fantasy elements? I’ll let you in on a secret: fantasy novels are not about dragons, fairies, unicorns or elves. They’re very often about people. They’re about interpersonal relationships; about our relationship with the world we live in; about what we know and what we don’t; about the imagination; about storytelling; about growing up; about falling in love; about gender; about family, friendship, loss, grief, madness, power, war, peace, you name it. I read them exactly because they tell me just as much about being human as realistic fiction does – and no, not in a less complex or sophisticated way. (But then again, how would I know, right?)
Why can’t you respect the fact that I don’t like fantasy?
I absolutely do. Often when I tell people that fantasy is a lot more diverse than they seem to believe, they feel that I’m pressuring them to start reading it. Possibly I sound like I am because I let my enthusiasm for something I love carry me away, but I’m actually not, I promise. I do believe that the genre is diverse enough that there’s likely a fantasy book out there for every reader, and that dismissing it entirely about one bad experience is hasty; but then again, this is quite likely also the case with, say, thrillers or romance, and I’ve yet to try those genres. It’s not that I refuse to, but we all can be a little wary of venturing into brand-new territory, especially when we already have a thousand different reading interests to pursue. So who am I to judge? There’s something to be said for being adventurous and stepping out of our comfort zone more often, but I won’t look down on people who choose to stick to what they already know they like. Life is short, after all.
This is all very well, but it’s called a genre for a reason, no? The books that belong to the fantasy genre follow certain conventions, and how can any meaningful truths about Life, The Universe and Everything be expressed if the writer is limited by the shackles of genre conventions?
Ah, where to start. First of all, the conventions people usually have in mind when they think “fantasy conventions” are those of a very specific subgenre: epic or quest fantasy. I don’t actually read much epic fantasy – I have nothing against it, but it’s not my favourite subgenre, so I don’t feel that I’m qualified to talk about it at length.
But I’ll say I wish more people realised there’s a lot more to fantasy than just epic quests. Yes, those thick books and endless series are hard to miss when you wander to the fantasy section, but saying they’re all there is to fantasy is like saying that Nicholas Sparks, Jodi Picoult or Dan Brown are accurate representations of the majority of realistic fiction because their books are hard to miss. I have absolutely nothing against these authors or their readers, mind you, but the fact remains that they don’t accurately represent all realistic or mainstream fiction.
Also, I have a problem with the assumption that realistic fiction has no conventions, when in fact all fiction is based on conventions. Aristotle wrote about them a long, long time ago. Why is “experimental fiction” often so strange and discomforting? Why do we even have a term such as “experimental fiction”? It’s exactly because we recognise that there are books that break the conventions we’re used to.
But but but! Surely you can’t compare the conventions that govern all fiction to genre conventions! Those a lot more limiting!
I don’t actually think genre conventions are all that limiting. My favourite authors work both within and around them. They make them work for them; in favour of, not against, the story they want to tell. And while conventions may determine the general shape of a story (or not, and that can be used to create a certain tone or effect), they don’t at all determine its themes or its meaningfulness, however you define that. So no, I don’t think they’re limiting. For example, I’m using a loose version of the conventions of the Socratic dialogue in this post, and rather than limit me they’re allowing me to say exactly what I want to say.
It’s okay; we all have our “guilty pleasures”. *pat pat*
I can’t tell you how tired I am of expressions such as “guilty pleasure”, “fluff”, “indulgence”, or “brain candy.” It’s not the fact that fantasy represents this for some people that I mind; it’s the implication that this is all it can ever hope to be for everyone. Those of us who like fantasy surely do so because we acknowledge there’s a time and place for Serious Books and a time and place for fun and games, right? And surely we won’t deny that these are mutually exclusive categories? We can’t possibly actually take fantasy seriously, can we now?
It saddens me that even some fantasy fans accept this assumption without pausing to examine it – and as a result, they always sound mildly apologetic when talking about fantasy books they’ve enjoyed. It’s funny; the fact that I take fantasy seriously and read it as attentively and critically as I do so-called serious literature seems to shock people more than the fact that I read it to begin with. It’s like I’m some wayward child who’ll not only be naughty, but refuses to apologise or to acknowledge the fact that her parents Know Best when they tell her she misbehaved.
For the record, I hate this assumption both because it implies that fantasy can’t be serious and because it implies that Serious Literature can’t be fun.
Why do you think everyone is out to get you?
Actually, I don’t. I realise that most other readers are very open-minded and respectful, and that even in the most conservative corners of the literary establishment non-realistic or “genre” fiction has begun to receive some serious critical attention. I also know that most people who don’t read fantasy don’t actively dismiss it or look down on its readers. Somehow, though, I always seem to be cornered into these kinds of conversations. Clearly I’m doing something wrong. Help?
If your reading choices make you happy, why do you even care what anyone else thinks?
Because I’m tired of a lifetime of conversations where people subtly or not so subtly talk down to me and patronise me because not only do I admit to loving fantasy, but I refuse to look ashamed of myself for it. As I also love comics and YA (and take them seriously too), I have this happen to me thrice as frequently – which isn’t as fun as it might sound, believe me. I don’t like being patronised, and I doubt anyone does. I realise this doesn’t happen everywhere (again, possibly I’m moving entirely in the wrong circles), and I also realise that people are patronised and judged for many, many other reasons. But this is my experience, so it’s the only thing I feel qualified to talk about. I really wish we wouldn’t be so quick to judge and dismiss people because of what they read.
WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY?!
I’m not; I promise! I’m just not apologetic or acquiescent, which for some reason everyone seems to expect me to be. If I don’t accept a narrative about the world in which the books I love are relegated to a place of intellectual inferiority and unimportance, I’m dismissed as angry. It gets frustrating, as you can probably tell.
Seriously now: why do you let this consume you?
I don’t know! Possibly because I’m young and impatient and need to grow a thicker skin. Also because I love talking about books, and the assumptions about the books I like (and, by extension, about me) under which many of me interlocutors seem to operate make these conversations very difficult and frustrating. It’s like I’m expected to at least have the decency to stay in the closet and laugh along when somebody makes a joke about all those brain-dead Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter fans, or when somebody says, “Oh, that book was kind of dumb, but then again, it’s fantasy/a graphic novel/YA, so what did you expect?” And if I don’t, that’s it. I’m out. I’m Not Fit For Polite Society.
I realise that saying what I’ve said here for the nth time is pretty useless, as most people who feel this way aren’t likely to change their minds (or to be reading my blog to begin with). But perhaps I’ll encourage a reader or two to rethink their previously unexamined assumptions (we all have those, only about different things). And if so, it’ll have been worth it.
Do people ever make assumptions about you based on what you read (be it fantasy, mysteries, classics, award-winners, YA, you name it)? Does this frustrate you? Do you just shrug it off, or does it get to you? How do you deal with it?
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